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tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the message is just sit tight, stay tuned and i think what we have to do, don, is find out tomorrow morning, whether there is any progress between senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden. there is definitely hope. there is not a lot of time. >> let me tell you this, lisa. when you see the workers there, and the crew that -- and those are the people who these negotiations are about. every day americans who work these types of jobs, who are every day americans and so there you go. i think that is absolutely tells the story. >> don, i want to -- >> go ahead. >> i want
tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the...
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, but an important one, because the two of them have a longstanding relationship, and joe biden was a senator for three decades, and they have worked through the bipartisan deals before and like the actual tax cut extension that happened a couple of years ago and the second thing that you hear claire mccaskill, the democrat, talk about is that republicans are holding out for taxes for the rich. that is something that we heard the president talk about ad nauseam on the campaign trail for over a year, but it really does seem to be a boiling down to those same arguments, and the same philosophical differences behind closed doors and then technically, process-wise, what is going on is that they have to figure out where the threshold is for how high of an income you have to raise enough votes in the house where there is a big republican majority in order to get it to the president's desk. >> a lot of information, dana. standby, because even though the senate has gone home, still maybe more news. dana will be joining us later. thank you. ali? >> don, we have cnn contributor and columnist fo
, but an important one, because the two of them have a longstanding relationship, and joe biden was a senator for three decades, and they have worked through the bipartisan deals before and like the actual tax cut extension that happened a couple of years ago and the second thing that you hear claire mccaskill, the democrat, talk about is that republicans are holding out for taxes for the rich. that is something that we heard the president talk about ad nauseam on the campaign trail for over a...
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vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for mor
vice president biden also here at the white house. he can of course be an incredibly important player in this entire process. president obama's strategy has to some extent been to wage a public campaign putting the pressure on congress to get something done during that exclusive interview earlier today you heard the president accuse republicans of being solely focused on protecting the taxes of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those...
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yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in mak
yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseeable future. >> jill,...
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the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day, a new year. the political struggles of the past year have revealed the divisions that exist in our nation. there are many american citizens who are angry,
the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert...
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that's vice president joe biden. mcconnell and biden reportedly spoke several times by phone throughout the night after talks with harry reid came to a halt. welcome back, everyone, to "morning joe." that's the latest. ed rendell and jeffrey sachs all with us along with sam stein and michael steele in washington. joining us also in washington, senior national correspondent for "bloomberg businessweek," joshua green. and joshua, before we go on to what led to this doomsday scenario that we're facing right now, which was all set up by lawmakers in washington, talk to me about what businesses are looking for and wall street is looking for. there will be reaction. there's always this discussion about the need for certainty. at best, we're going to get some sort of small deal that puts everything off, which makes this whole deadline make no sense. are businesses going to respond well to that? >> if we get a deal, yes. i mean, wall street all along has been looking to avert the fiscal cliff. and frankly, i don't think ceos
that's vice president joe biden. mcconnell and biden reportedly spoke several times by phone throughout the night after talks with harry reid came to a halt. welcome back, everyone, to "morning joe." that's the latest. ed rendell and jeffrey sachs all with us along with sam stein and michael steele in washington. joining us also in washington, senior national correspondent for "bloomberg businessweek," joshua green. and joshua, before we go on to what led to this doomsday...
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biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived with. and i think chuck has put a really interesting political identifier on this thing. this play should have probably always have started in the senate with mcconnell as opposed to relying on the house, given the fractured nature of the
biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the...
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there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who were thinking about maybe going with romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he was not quite ready for prime time. so i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the worst move? >> let me come at it from a slightly different angle. >> you always do. you don't have to preface that. >> from the standpoint of voters who -- you know, i think to make an informed choice, what do you have? you have the debates, we had jim lehrer as the moderator, for the 96th time. he moderated the first debate, the designated domestic policy debate. you could have climate change or gay marriage or birth control. all of this stuff. all of that was ignored, we talked about simpson bowles, the deficit reduction and affordable care act. >> with no explanation of what they were for the average
there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who were thinking about maybe going with romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was, how extreme his positions on social security and medicare, but they also just felt like he was not quite ready for prime time. so i think it was a very bad strategic move for them. >> steve, the...
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of course vice president biden was in there. >> do you support the bill? >> this is not new information. yes, i would support the bill. >> how many democrats would not support the bill? >> i don't have that count. i think it really -- i would hope and expect that this is a bipartisan bill. that's what the american people have been asking us to do is to find a way to protect the middle class in this country, to provide certainty for the markets and actually for all of us both consumers and investors and get it done. don't go over this cliff. take care of particularly the tax provisions in this legislation. we will have other opportunities to discuss and will be implementing either sequester an alternative. that's a trillion dollars in spending cuts we've committed to. the notion we haven't dealt with spending. we know we need some tax revenues. this is a compromise. >> we've got a minute left here, congress woman -- >> something we have to vote on. i'm saying. >> you want it to come to the floor on an up or down vote. >> absolutely. >> in it doesn't come up
of course vice president biden was in there. >> do you support the bill? >> this is not new information. yes, i would support the bill. >> how many democrats would not support the bill? >> i don't have that count. i think it really -- i would hope and expect that this is a bipartisan bill. that's what the american people have been asking us to do is to find a way to protect the middle class in this country, to provide certainty for the markets and actually for all of us...
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so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less. remember president obama wanted that threshold at 250,000. house speaker john boehner wanted it much higher at about a million dollars. this is somewhere in between. also, an extension of the unemployment insurance benefits. they're still hashing out some of the final details but it does appear as though the vice president was key in helping these negotiations to move forward. >> the negotiations go on there, kristen, we are watching the senate floor as they discuss the very details of that and debate it. keith, to you on this. political pointing out, bid
so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less....
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to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense where they are, if they're any further along, and then if there is a package, it would be revealed to each side, meaning the house and the senate, let members take a look at it, and gauge if they're ready to go and vote on it. it is the final day of the year tomorrow. and so the time could not be any shorter. and that's putting pressure on everyone involved. we just don't have a sense if there is optimism, but at least we're told they are still talking. chris? >> obviously, vice president biden has not been involved in these negotiations up until now. do we know why the whit
to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense...
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biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly o., i'm looking at the clock, we are now 14 hours and 58 minutes from going over the fiscal cliff. let's outline -- >> reporter: but who's counting, right, chris? >> yeah, who's counting? let's go over for people, what remains unresolved? it seems like two weeks ago they were pretty well set on the basic parameters of this thing, so let's talk about what's left to deal on? >> reporter: well, there are some significant differences, but
biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans...
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. >> senator, joe biden is, of course, president of the senate. he has a constitutional role. he could cast a deciding vote and he is currently on the side of the administration in beating badge challenges to the filibuster in federal court. at least this vice president has taken some stands here, hasn't he? >> well, not if terms of the framework of what we're about to do. and indeed, we would be as vice president, he could do a couple of things on a constitutional issue. he can say those are by normal protocol referred to the body. so if you have 51 members who vote, that becomes the ruling. so he can either make a ruling himself and then we sustain or overturn it or he can turn the ruling back to the body, which is what was done in 1975. >> understood. steve is going to give us our last question today. >> sort of a skeptical one. even people appreciate the idea of what you're doing. i think the point is you get the talking filibuster. it will be a novelty at first. some people on c span 2 would get a kick out of watching it, but senate floor time is so precious, democrats, y
. >> senator, joe biden is, of course, president of the senate. he has a constitutional role. he could cast a deciding vote and he is currently on the side of the administration in beating badge challenges to the filibuster in federal court. at least this vice president has taken some stands here, hasn't he? >> well, not if terms of the framework of what we're about to do. and indeed, we would be as vice president, he could do a couple of things on a constitutional issue. he can say...
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act and acted with 89 affirmative votes for the tough deal that leader mcconnell and vice president biden struck. only to have a rebellion in the house republican conference. now that conference is in discussions right now, as we speak. they went into a meeting about 45 minutes ago. they haven't emerged yet to try to find a way forward. as for amending the bill which so many house conservatives say they are demanding right now, the senate has made clear, senate democratic aides have made clear they're done. if the house amends that bill they will not touch it. they'll relitigate this somehow in the new congress. >> woodruff: is it the case that most republicans in the house are against this? are you able to get a read on how widespread the opposition is? >> it is the case that most house republicans are against it. that doesn't mean that all would vote against it. the dynamic you have here now is fairly broad support from democrats in the house. leader nancy pelosi and other democratic leaders calling for an up-or-down vote on the senate-passed bill. that tells you something. that tells y
act and acted with 89 affirmative votes for the tough deal that leader mcconnell and vice president biden struck. only to have a rebellion in the house republican conference. now that conference is in discussions right now, as we speak. they went into a meeting about 45 minutes ago. they haven't emerged yet to try to find a way forward. as for amending the bill which so many house conservatives say they are demanding right now, the senate has made clear, senate democratic aides have made clear...
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biden used to say this this congress ain't your grandfather's congress. when guys like that used to get to the and work out deals, and it was mostly guys, the caucuses would kind of fall in line behind them. not exactly the case today. especially in the house. >> especially in the house. if they work out a deal, that's my question, can they possibly work out a deal that satisfies the house? >> i don't see it. look, i mean the deal that we're talking about, and i think that john talked about, about some optimism last night, see some snippets of it in some of the news coverage overnight, is essentially some deal to increase taxes, to put off sequestration cuts, and to add some additional spending in the form of extending unemployment benefits. so you're talking about bringing to the house floor a bill to raise taxes, and increase spending, and put up -- >> they say forget about it with boehner. >> i just don't see it in this context. and you know, if people aren't -- >> -- thought that we would -- >> we've been saying this for awhile. >> and i also want to
biden used to say this this congress ain't your grandfather's congress. when guys like that used to get to the and work out deals, and it was mostly guys, the caucuses would kind of fall in line behind them. not exactly the case today. especially in the house. >> especially in the house. if they work out a deal, that's my question, can they possibly work out a deal that satisfies the house? >> i don't see it. look, i mean the deal that we're talking about, and i think that john...